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		<title>By: Samual Cooper</title>
		<link>http://www.memeverse.com/2008/03/30/free-market-vs-the-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-1092</link>
		<dc:creator>Samual Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 07:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to say that I found your site via Goolge and I am glad I did.  Keep up the good work and I will make sure to bookmark you for when I have more free time away from the books.  Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to say that I found your site via Goolge and I am glad I did.  Keep up the good work and I will make sure to bookmark you for when I have more free time away from the books.  Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: sandrar</title>
		<link>http://www.memeverse.com/2008/03/30/free-market-vs-the-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-812</link>
		<dc:creator>sandrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! I was surfing and found your blog post... nice! I love your blog.  :) Cheers! Sandra. R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! I was surfing and found your blog post&#8230; nice! I love your blog.  <img src='http://www.memeverse.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Cheers! Sandra. R.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.memeverse.com/2008/03/30/free-market-vs-the-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-680</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I missed your comments. I don't write guest posts, but I own other sites where I wrote stuff, like Nuxified.org and Libervis.com mainly.

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I missed your comments. I don&#8217;t write guest posts, but I own other sites where I wrote stuff, like Nuxified.org and Libervis.com mainly.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: How to Get Six Pack Fast</title>
		<link>http://www.memeverse.com/2008/03/30/free-market-vs-the-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-678</link>
		<dc:creator>How to Get Six Pack Fast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The style of writing is quite familiar  . Did you write guest posts for other blogs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The style of writing is quite familiar  . Did you write guest posts for other blogs?</p>
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		<title>By: FreeSoftNews &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Free Market vs the OOXML</title>
		<link>http://www.memeverse.com/2008/03/30/free-market-vs-the-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>FreeSoftNews &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Free Market vs the OOXML</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ever since Open Document Format was standardized by ISO and Microsoft started pushing its own “open” format a significant portion of the Free Software community has been buzzing about how bloated, not really open and ultimately redundant Microsoft’s format is and moreover how Microsoft is using various “dirty tricks” to get its format approved as an open standard. I have to say I wasn’t among the many vocal on this issue and that the whole process of standardization, like much of other legal mumbo jumbo is both beyond my interest and skill.   Read more at Memeverse [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ever since Open Document Format was standardized by ISO and Microsoft started pushing its own “open” format a significant portion of the Free Software community has been buzzing about how bloated, not really open and ultimately redundant Microsoft’s format is and moreover how Microsoft is using various “dirty tricks” to get its format approved as an open standard. I have to say I wasn’t among the many vocal on this issue and that the whole process of standardization, like much of other legal mumbo jumbo is both beyond my interest and skill.   Read more at Memeverse [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Boycott Novell &#187; Clannish Grouping Makes Tribal Elections (ISO and OOXML)</title>
		<link>http://www.memeverse.com/2008/03/30/free-market-vs-the-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Boycott Novell &#187; Clannish Grouping Makes Tribal Elections (ISO and OOXML)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a quick look at this new writeup which touches on a similar question: It&#8217;s summarised as &#8220;Free Market vs the OOXML&#8221;.  Supporting open standards does not equate to supporting standards for which ISO said are [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a quick look at this new writeup which touches on a similar question: It&#8217;s summarised as &#8220;Free Market vs the OOXML&#8221;.  Supporting open standards does not equate to supporting standards for which ISO said are [...]</p>
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		<title>By: stoobie</title>
		<link>http://www.memeverse.com/2008/03/30/free-market-vs-the-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>stoobie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually there are quite a number of European countries and US states that have already mandated ODF as their official document format, so I wouldn't be so quick to declare it "as good as dead" just yet. By the same token, one might ask how many business and government agencies are currently using OOXML?
 In it's current state, it is still so half-baked and incomplete that even Microsoft doesn't use it in any of its products, so one has to wonder exactly *what* are they trying to push through as a standard, anyway?
I am inclined to agree with the article. Even if OOXML manages to become an ISO standard, I can't foresee a time that I will be using it,..ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually there are quite a number of European countries and US states that have already mandated ODF as their official document format, so I wouldn&#8217;t be so quick to declare it &#8220;as good as dead&#8221; just yet. By the same token, one might ask how many business and government agencies are currently using OOXML?<br />
 In it&#8217;s current state, it is still so half-baked and incomplete that even Microsoft doesn&#8217;t use it in any of its products, so one has to wonder exactly *what* are they trying to push through as a standard, anyway?<br />
I am inclined to agree with the article. Even if OOXML manages to become an ISO standard, I can&#8217;t foresee a time that I will be using it,..ever.</p>
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		<title>By: walterbyrd</title>
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		<dc:creator>walterbyrd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO: the ODF is good as good as dead. Yes, the ISO approval of OOXML matters, it matters a great deal. Does anybody remember what went on in Massachusetts? The only reason ODF was even considered was because it was the only open standard at the time, and ODF still lost. What chance would ODF have today?

Be honest: how often does somebody insist that your resume be in ODF format? How often do you walk into an office, and find  everybody using ODF format? How many governments store their documents in ODF format? Zero? 

ODF never had a chance to get any traction. Now that OOXML is just as much an ISO standard as ODF; ODF has no chance at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO: the ODF is good as good as dead. Yes, the ISO approval of OOXML matters, it matters a great deal. Does anybody remember what went on in Massachusetts? The only reason ODF was even considered was because it was the only open standard at the time, and ODF still lost. What chance would ODF have today?</p>
<p>Be honest: how often does somebody insist that your resume be in ODF format? How often do you walk into an office, and find  everybody using ODF format? How many governments store their documents in ODF format? Zero? </p>
<p>ODF never had a chance to get any traction. Now that OOXML is just as much an ISO standard as ODF; ODF has no chance at all.</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://www.memeverse.com/2008/03/30/free-market-vs-the-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-183</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. I've had the same thoughts re the possible outcome and what options are left to those of us that prefer to avoid lock-in with a convicted monopolist. I would suggest that it be taken a step further. It's time to expose the ISO process for what it really is. Microsoft and company have used it like an origami master uses a sheet of paper. Is this a group that other organizations really want making standards for their markets? They're about as resistant to influence as the US congress. ISO has become the poster child for the golden rule; ie, the one with the gold makes the rule. It's time to expose their modus operandi for what it really is. I feel that an all-out effort to destroy their credibility must begin. If the over-paid (ie, bought and paid for) ISO committee is threatened with irrelevance, I think they're going to want to do something to save their cushy positions.

And one more thought about the ISO process. They can be added to the list of popular oxymorons; eg, jumbo shrimp, army intelligence, government worker, happily married, and ISO standard. Nod nod. Wink wink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. I&#8217;ve had the same thoughts re the possible outcome and what options are left to those of us that prefer to avoid lock-in with a convicted monopolist. I would suggest that it be taken a step further. It&#8217;s time to expose the ISO process for what it really is. Microsoft and company have used it like an origami master uses a sheet of paper. Is this a group that other organizations really want making standards for their markets? They&#8217;re about as resistant to influence as the US congress. ISO has become the poster child for the golden rule; ie, the one with the gold makes the rule. It&#8217;s time to expose their modus operandi for what it really is. I feel that an all-out effort to destroy their credibility must begin. If the over-paid (ie, bought and paid for) ISO committee is threatened with irrelevance, I think they&#8217;re going to want to do something to save their cushy positions.</p>
<p>And one more thought about the ISO process. They can be added to the list of popular oxymorons; eg, jumbo shrimp, army intelligence, government worker, happily married, and ISO standard. Nod nod. Wink wink.</p>
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		<title>By: Taran Rampersad</title>
		<link>http://www.memeverse.com/2008/03/30/free-market-vs-the-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator>Taran Rampersad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is my understanding that OOXML got shot down... yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is my understanding that OOXML got shot down&#8230; yesterday.</p>
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